Seriously I remember when the original Avatar the Last Airbender was put on Netflix and suddenly everyone was like bro have you seen this and I'm like bro I've been on that since it aired on Nickelodeon haha. And everyone freaking out about The Office getting taken of Netflix and I'm chilling with the Blu ray collection.
Algorithms are a poor man's tool to assess quality (I mean it in human and not monetary terms). Anything which makes people lazier and less eager to make choices of their own is something to stay well clear of.
Trust me : I understand – I wonder how many younger car guys will ever know the og : Gone in 60 secs – or Vanishing Point – classics – will they ever know Reservoir Dogs ?
Maybe when the “younger” generation gets older, they may want to seek the older “classic” content. Right now they are happy with what is being pushed at them.
The sort of thing where streaming services change lines I’ve noticed a few different times one in particular was with the Netflix stream of scooby doo 2 monsters unleashed I don’t know if that’s still on there but on the physical version of it one of shaggy’s was “why don’t we investigate a Burger King or something?” In the Netflix stream I’ve seen of it, it was replaced with “why don’t investigate a kfc or something?”
I got rid of Netflix and I might even go back to cable. I spend more time fishing on my stick than actually enjoying something. Whoever own the rights to these movies and shows needs to stop whoring them out, and absolutely no SD!!! It looks horrible and even when it's available in 1080 they still show it in 480! It's 2024 and if I could filter my device for HD only, there wouldn't be about 30%. Talk about falling asleep at the wheel!
Streaming services are becoming trash. Taking away movies games shows. I know the copyright ends or switches to a different company, but it’s up to the highest bitter and they are trying to force people into paying more and more for add-ons.
My brother's Netflix recommendations for documentaries are great, on my Netflix they only show up if I search for the title of the docu ??
The algorithm just tries to feed you more of what it thinks you are into, rather than lettin you customise/choose which type of stuff to show. What I watched before doesn't indicate what I want next, I might watch a mindless action movie then want to watch a thoughtful docu.
I miss walkin through Blockbuster lookin for hidden gems, lesser known movies that became cult classics, the straight to DVDs that sometimes yielded an amazin movie that was different to the rest.
Netflix algorithm used to be awesome back in like 2016/17. it used to be a that you would make a ratting on a 5-star scale and it would cater the recommendations to the movies that you have already rated. I had rated thousands of movies and the recommendations were usually great … then they changed it and nearly a decade of catering my account was down the tubes. It was when people hated its original content (Amy Shumer Leather Special anybody?) that it changed for the worst. Now it is worthless.
When I used my friends Netflix account. I could not find shows that I used to watch on live tv. They were a mixture of saturday morning cartoons and sitcoms that I grew up watching from the 90s. I still watch shows from the 90s since they were more entertaining and not being edited and censored compared to the modern version of streaming. I found the shows and even movies from the 90s on free websites and free apps. I used to buy cds and movies when there was a local fye around.
No single streaming service is ever going to have enough films on it to be a sufficient recommendation machine. Shoutout to Kanopy tho as they do a good job of curating specific niches thanks to the fact that they have a ton. It's best to know what you want to watch before even opening one of these apps imo. I'd recommend finding like minded people on rating sites such as Letterboxd, RYM (takes care of the music issue as well as film), and Criticker for recs and then keeping a master watchlist on Justwatch. I'll always prefer having trusted friends/mutuals to give me recs over any kind of algorithm anyways
I don't agree with this take and I find some of these responses to be a little extra with the negativity. I've found plenty of great songs on Spotify from artists I hadn't heard of before and plenty of interesting content on Netflix. Granted, these are more shows than movies because that's what i've been watching lately, but alot of it has been foreign stuff I would have probably not watched otherwise. I think this "problem" is very overstated.
welcome to getting older and understanding the circle of life and how the cycle of technology and time is a fine balance of creativity and destruction all in one
Algorithms like this ruined finding new music for me. I used to go on YouTube and find a song or person i liked and would end up going down a rabbit hole with all the different recommendations for each video which introduced me to different songs and different people i wasnt aware of. Now if i try to do this it will just recommend the same stuff i already listened to (and already fairly mainstream) and very rarely, if ever, recommends something ive not been exposed to or outside of the mainstream
I talked to my coworker who is 19 . I sad that my favorite actor is Jack Nicholson . And he doesn't even know who he is. I think the thing is the urge for watching older movies. Which is huge thing for me. I really crave some 60 "s and 70 's movies and even older ones, but they are NOWHERE on my HBOmax
This is why we all dread mergers like the one that absorbed HBO. They used to be an incredible source or raw, risk-taking content that in many ways set a new standard for television.
Amazon seems to recommend its own stuff, i have been collecting Physical media since 1988, back in the VHS days, i love the original version of The Mechanic, i have it on Blu-Ray
The Six Million Dollar Man and the Bionic Woman just got a blu ray scan and they look fantastic! Nothing like the old DVD sets. Roku is streaming them on one of their channels but to purchase the blu rays would be well over $200 for both sets and THAT is why physical media is dying. Unless they get the price down somehow…
I buy a lot of movies. I mostly stream TV shows. Amazon Prime has the worst problem of hiding like 90 percent of their catalog. Which is strange, because they paid for the content.
I couldn't agree more. As it turns out the channel I watch most is the Criterion Channel. I really wish that Warner/Discovery would release a Turner Classic Movie streaming service.
What drives me nuts about them is they also do not seem to know what they are doing. For example, say I watch Halloween, I'll get "since you watched Halloween we recommend Friday the 13th, Texas Chainsaw, Hellraiser…My Little Pony?" I see things like this all the time.
I get my music recommendations from reaction channels on YouTube. I listen to rock and metal and channels like MetalBirb and Ohrion Reacts are where I’ve found new bands that I love.
I'd disagree. These services gave me the opportunity to watch a ton of movies i never would have.
Rarely do i miss a movie on a service. I always check the recently added and last chance sections.
The accesibility is unmatch.
I cannot stop finding movies to watch. Particulary with max, tubi, and netflix.
If you are having an issue finding a movie to watch then its on you. The current generation is so picky on what to watch that they wouldnt watch something older than they are (like my younger sister who is 18).
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Seriously I remember when the original Avatar the Last Airbender was put on Netflix and suddenly everyone was like bro have you seen this and I'm like bro I've been on that since it aired on Nickelodeon haha. And everyone freaking out about The Office getting taken of Netflix and I'm chilling with the Blu ray collection.
Algorithms are a poor man's tool to assess quality (I mean it in human and not monetary terms).
Anything which makes people lazier and less eager to make choices of their own is something to stay well clear of.
Trust me : I understand – I wonder how many younger car guys will ever know the og : Gone in 60 secs – or Vanishing Point – classics – will they ever know Reservoir Dogs ?
Maybe when the “younger” generation gets older, they may want to seek the older “classic” content. Right now they are happy with what is being pushed at them.
Idk when the rebranding happened but im here for it well needed for sure
The sort of thing where streaming services change lines I’ve noticed a few different times one in particular was with the Netflix stream of scooby doo 2 monsters unleashed I don’t know if that’s still on there but on the physical version of it one of shaggy’s was “why don’t we investigate a Burger King or something?” In the Netflix stream I’ve seen of it, it was replaced with “why don’t investigate a kfc or something?”
Good info. Great rant!
I got rid of Netflix and I might even go back to cable. I spend more time fishing on my stick than actually enjoying something. Whoever own the rights to these movies and shows needs to stop whoring them out, and absolutely no SD!!! It looks horrible and even when it's available in 1080 they still show it in 480! It's 2024 and if I could filter my device for HD only, there wouldn't be about 30%. Talk about falling asleep at the wheel!
Streaming services are becoming trash. Taking away movies games shows. I know the copyright ends or switches to a different company, but it’s up to the highest bitter and they are trying to force people into paying more and more for add-ons.
Streaming for TV shows and physical media for movies is how I work.
My brother's Netflix recommendations for documentaries are great, on my Netflix they only show up if I search for the title of the docu
??
The algorithm just tries to feed you more of what it thinks you are into, rather than lettin you customise/choose which type of stuff to show. What I watched before doesn't indicate what I want next, I might watch a mindless action movie then want to watch a thoughtful docu.
I miss walkin through Blockbuster lookin for hidden gems, lesser known movies that became cult classics, the straight to DVDs that sometimes yielded an amazin movie that was different to the rest.
Thank you Jeff ?
31 you still young
Netflix algorithm used to be awesome back in like 2016/17. it used to be a that you would make a ratting on a 5-star scale and it would cater the recommendations to the movies that you have already rated. I had rated thousands of movies and the recommendations were usually great … then they changed it and nearly a decade of catering my account was down the tubes. It was when people hated its original content (Amy Shumer Leather Special anybody?) that it changed for the worst. Now it is worthless.
There retro music & movies & video games store all over the state's
When I used my friends Netflix account. I could not find shows that I used to watch on live tv. They were a mixture of saturday morning cartoons and sitcoms that I grew up watching from the 90s. I still watch shows from the 90s since they were more entertaining and not being edited and censored compared to the modern version of streaming. I found the shows and even movies from the 90s on free websites and free apps. I used to buy cds and movies when there was a local fye around.
No single streaming service is ever going to have enough films on it to be a sufficient recommendation machine. Shoutout to Kanopy tho as they do a good job of curating specific niches thanks to the fact that they have a ton. It's best to know what you want to watch before even opening one of these apps imo. I'd recommend finding like minded people on rating sites such as Letterboxd, RYM (takes care of the music issue as well as film), and Criticker for recs and then keeping a master watchlist on Justwatch. I'll always prefer having trusted friends/mutuals to give me recs over any kind of algorithm anyways
Criterion Channel is boss, it's always an adventure for deep cuts, and a bargain.
I don't agree with this take and I find some of these responses to be a little extra with the negativity. I've found plenty of great songs on Spotify from artists I hadn't heard of before and plenty of interesting content on Netflix. Granted, these are more shows than movies because that's what i've been watching lately, but alot of it has been foreign stuff I would have probably not watched otherwise. I think this "problem" is very overstated.
welcome to getting older and understanding the circle of life and how the cycle of technology and time is a fine balance of creativity and destruction all in one
Algorithms like this ruined finding new music for me. I used to go on YouTube and find a song or person i liked and would end up going down a rabbit hole with all the different recommendations for each video which introduced me to different songs and different people i wasnt aware of. Now if i try to do this it will just recommend the same stuff i already listened to (and already fairly mainstream) and very rarely, if ever, recommends something ive not been exposed to or outside of the mainstream
I talked to my coworker who is 19 . I sad that my favorite actor is Jack Nicholson . And he doesn't even know who he is. I think the thing is the urge for watching older movies. Which is huge thing for me. I really crave some 60 "s and 70 's movies and even older ones, but they are NOWHERE on my HBOmax
This is why we all dread mergers like the one that absorbed HBO. They used to be an incredible source or raw, risk-taking content that in many ways set a new standard for television.
Amazon seems to recommend its own stuff, i have been collecting Physical media since 1988, back in the VHS days, i love the original version of The Mechanic, i have it on Blu-Ray
I had that issue with Spotify my discover mix started playing the same songs.
Even on HBO they rarely have new movies. Same movies over and over again. I think strike had something to do with it.
Hey Jeff, off subject but did you ever do a review of the 4K Beastmaster?
The Six Million Dollar Man and the Bionic Woman just got a blu ray scan and they look fantastic! Nothing like the old DVD sets. Roku is streaming them on one of their channels but to purchase the blu rays would be well over $200 for both sets and THAT is why physical media is dying. Unless they get the price down somehow…
I bypass all recommended sections. Lately for example I took a deep dive into Walter Hill’s filmography. What algorithm would suggest that? None.
Do a young loved one a favour and gift a Mubi acct for a year.
Love my Criterion channel. Always something I've never seen before.
I buy a lot of movies. I mostly stream TV shows. Amazon Prime has the worst problem of hiding like 90 percent of their catalog. Which is strange, because they paid for the content.
Great subject! Human curation is the key. The CD industry in the UK seems well alive, and a journalist named Jon Savage has been compiling top-notch CD mixtapes since 2015, of really great but obscure songs. An incredible way to discover music from the 60s, 70s and 80s. It's also such a cool feeling to hold a CD containing such old gold, and a label that says "©2024"
I couldn't agree more. As it turns out the channel I watch most is the Criterion Channel. I really wish that Warner/Discovery would release a Turner Classic Movie streaming service.
What drives me nuts about them is they also do not seem to know what they are doing. For example, say I watch Halloween, I'll get "since you watched Halloween we recommend Friday the 13th, Texas Chainsaw, Hellraiser…My Little Pony?" I see things like this all the time.
The algorithm is a necessary evil in the battle against tyranny of choice.
I get my music recommendations from reaction channels on YouTube. I listen to rock and metal and channels like MetalBirb and Ohrion Reacts are where I’ve found new bands that I love.
I'd disagree. These services gave me the opportunity to watch a ton of movies i never would have.
Rarely do i miss a movie on a service. I always check the recently added and last chance sections.
The accesibility is unmatch.
I cannot stop finding movies to watch. Particulary with max, tubi, and netflix.
If you are having an issue finding a movie to watch then its on you. The current generation is so picky on what to watch that they wouldnt watch something older than they are (like my younger sister who is 18).